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- April 19, 2013 at 8:00 am #78600
I picked up a horse power at an estate auction a couple of years ago. I don’t currently have a use for it, but figured it would be a good investment at the price I gave for it. It did come with a tongue, but I can’t figure out how to set it up, or if this is the tongue that was originally used with it. Google searches for anything related to “horse power” only yield predictable results. I’m attaching a couple photos of the horse power. Any thoughts on where I can go to learn more would be a appreciated. Thank you.April 19, 2013 at 8:34 am #78603j.l.holtParticipant
Can you explain anymore about this and its use. I never seen such a animal my self.April 19, 2013 at 9:34 am #78604
Can you post the picture of the tongue also? The big gear sets over the top of the smaller gears and the tongue should just fasten across the top of it if it is only a one horse. Did you get the drive shaft and belt pulley that goes with it to drive different machinary? I belong to a club and we have a four horse that is used to power a small agitator or thrashing machine. We also have a two horse and a single horse powered tread mill. I will see if I can get some pictures of the horse power in operation.
These horse powers were used to power different pieses of belt driven equipment or I guess they could be direct drive also. It was a set of gears with a tongue attached that one or several horses/mules were hooked to and they walked in a circle turning the gears which in turn would turn a drive shaft to power equipment.April 19, 2013 at 9:35 am #78605Andy CarsonModerator
Does that big circular ring with gears on the inside (pic #2) fit over the top of (and mesh with) the exposed gears in pic #1? I think the circular ring was attached to sweep arms, and the gears increase the speed to the output shaft at the base of the triangle in pic#1.April 19, 2013 at 6:33 pm #78607
Yes, the ring goes on top of the other, gear piece. I have the ring off to clean and free up the gears and it’s too heavy for one person to put on just for a picture. I understand how the machine works, and I do have the gears, and a wheel to drive a belt. I get all that, what I can’t work out is how the tongue attaches to the horse power. I’ll get a photo of the tongue and post it tomorrow. Thank you.April 20, 2013 at 4:28 pm #78610
Photos of the tongue that came with the horse power. Last is the overall tongue. Next from bottom is the hammer strap, so I figured this is set up for two horses. Next up, second from top, is a bracket near the butt end of the tongue, behind the hammer strap, underside of the tongue. Top photo is the yoke bracket.April 20, 2013 at 10:31 pm #78623
My guess is that the tongue goes across the top gear with the metal piece on the end some how hooking into the bracket on it and the long bolt going through the tongue. I am still waiting on my friend to go through her pictures for some of our horse power. Unfortunatly I dont ever take pictures of anythingApril 22, 2013 at 11:50 am #78642
Here are some pictures of our horse powered bailer. If you look you can see the horse power in the back ground along with the two horse treadmill. I am still trying to come up with some more pictures.April 23, 2013 at 7:03 pm #78676wally bParticipant
That is a one horse power and the tounge fits on the bull wheel and is about 14 ft long. The tounge has a draft rod that attaches to the threaded rod to form a triangle to handle the stress on the tounge. One horse makes about 2-3 revolutions per minute and most powers put out about 80 on the output shaft. If there are two ends to the output shaft it can be used to turn clockwise at one end or counter at the other. The best articles about powers are by robert Lamm (now deceased I believe) in the SFJ and other journals. I coresponded with him when he was in his ninties and got alot of advice on my 8 horse or single horse powers. Any babbit blocks on the shaft will be marked with either punch marks (or other) to keep similiar halves together– if you decide to take them apart make sure and keep the hlves together or your shaft will wear improperly, and you may need to remake the babbits. There may be a timing mark on the bull wheel to set the gears properly–look for an arrow or other mark.
email me if you need help getting it going.
wally bApril 24, 2013 at 1:27 am #78679
Here’s one similar. The castings on the top ring are not identical but the setup should be similar. Triangular, like wally b says.April 24, 2013 at 1:29 am #78681April 24, 2013 at 1:32 am #78683April 24, 2013 at 1:36 am #78685April 24, 2013 at 1:39 am #78687
Slightly different tongue/draft rod setup on this one.April 24, 2013 at 1:45 am #78689
Sorry, I guess I was more interested in the fabrication of the base for this one. Didn’t get that tertiary draft rod documented very well. These were all taken at various Small Farmers Journal auctions, by the way. I think most -if not all- of them were rebuilt and consigned by Marvin Brisk. He’d probably be the man to go to if wally b can’t get you set up.
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