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- December 17, 2008 at 3:28 pm #39987Gabe AyersKeymaster
This is terrible news and Obama seems dumb as a rock about agriculture or farming…I am deeply disappointed in this situation and the likely continuance in the new administration….maybe the cool aid was the flavor of hope.
We may have to organize a more political side of this community of interest to let our opinions be known.December 17, 2008 at 4:04 pm #48544GuloParticipant
Prepare for more bad news – the economy of the U.S. is in its death throes (my country will follow shortly), and the powers that be know this. What we will see in 2009 is more attempts by the elites (politicians and their bedmates the corporations) to consolidate whatever further power they can before things really get out of hand.
The solution is for the common people to start digging their trenches, (and maybe even tunnels!) Take what positive action you can – for alliances in your communities, hone your survival skills, perhaps even think of forming communities, not as part of some ludicrous utopian dream, but as a basic act of survival.
I don’t think most people have done near enough holisitic research on the range of things going wrong right now in the world. Things are very bad. If you are going to do something decisive, do it now. The world of late 2009 is going to leave you fewer options than the one of right now.
Most of all, forget anything positive coming out of big centralized government or big anything. You like bad news, continue to look there. Your future lies in your local community. The draft animal community has skills that could stack the deck in their favor if:
i) they recognize how serious things have gotten;
ii) they organize and get proactive about survival and start thinking more interdependently.
Well, that’s my take, but it certainly isn’t my take alone. Do your own research, broaden your views, take in the range of things going sour right now. And forget about being anything more than left behind, if not mugged and left out to dry, by the power elites.December 17, 2008 at 4:41 pm #48542Carl RussellModerator
Right on Gulo.
We are a social people, so it is hard not to look at the large community represented by geo-economic-political institutions, especially as we have all grown up in societies predisposed to those allegiances. It is truly frightening to think of the frantic acts that these artificial power-structures will manifest in their attempts to grab onto something solid.
It will take a lot of faith as we find and hold those REAL things close to us, to keep from being swept over the cliff with the BIGGIES (Blue Meanies???).
Even among die-hard sustainable-ists it is a hard sell when one talks about backing away from the political process, and focusing on family/neighborhood survival, but I agree that NOW is the time, and it is our only hope.
Those of us close to the ground have a lot of things going for us.
CarlDecember 18, 2008 at 1:53 am #48543becorsonParticipant
It is a very disappointing choice. perhaps the silver lining is that it will keep us from getting ort hopes up that governemnt (federal or any other level) can do anything other than make the world more bureaucratic.
what hope there is still lies in individuals and local communites, just like you guys have said.
for what it’s worth, I am not much worried about my personal survival or even the survival of the human race, but I AM worried about the survival of the things that make us human. the worst case scenario, in my opinion, is that the human race survives as some kind of bio-techno-bureaucratic hybrid, but we lose all connection with the land, plants and our fellow animals . seems like we’re headed that way fast. today i met a young woman who said she feels “dirty” when she has a few dried leaves in her hair from walking through the woods on a windy winter day….
maybe if we all made it a goal not to “circle the wagons” and focus on hoarding our resources and skills but rather to be giving and outgoing and try to inspire other people . I see this forum as a great resource for that kind of thing, (as long as the electricity and internet are functioning).
i’m rambling. this is what a glass of (locally made) wine at the end of a long day does to me….
best wishes to all.
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