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- February 5, 2010 at 3:36 pm #41388AnthonyParticipant
See this NY Times Article.
Thanks to anyone who attended the public listening sessions or advocated against NAIS otherwise.February 5, 2010 at 3:53 pm #57635
This is excellent news!
However I will believe it when I see it, the info did come unofficially and anonymously. There were too many opportunities for private companies to make money, and with the big “food safety” flare up I wonder for how long we will be with out a national system. In NY we still have NY Animal ID to deal with, unless we can convince the governor it is unnecessary. The state is actually working on streamlining agencies as we speak, but the time to give public comments about AG & Markets has expired already, I found out too late.
I think individual “industries” are doing their own part to ID animals that are in their systems and there are good and effective disease tracking programs already in exist (Scrappies, Nat. Poultry Improvement Plan). We really don’t need this higher level of control or “assurance.” I hope this is a dead dog, but knowing the government and the general public fear of anything out side of a bubble, I wouldn’t count it dead yet.
ErikaFebruary 5, 2010 at 4:21 pm #57630Scott GParticipant
Hot damn!! if it’s true…February 5, 2010 at 11:58 pm #57638PhilParticipant
I don’t believe it.February 7, 2010 at 6:46 pm #57636
The USDA has officially dropped NAIS, but announces a new framework for Animal Disease Traceability.
If you read the Q&A download from this link it is almost refreshingly honest about the failure of the NAIS and tries to explain what I see are the goals of the new system, as they are suddenly in the process of making it.
“The new framework focuses only on animals that
move in interstate commerce. So, small producers
who raise animals and move them within a State,
Tribal Nation, or to local markets, as well as to feed
themselves, their families, and their neighbors are not
a part of the framework’s scope and focus.”
I am tempted to say that it sounds like the USDA has listened to and acknowledged the little guys. Some of the statements on this link make sense to me, and that scares me. I feel like this is the first sign that things could be different in a good way with this new administration, just because it appears that they have listened. Personally I will chalk it up as a step in a better direction and hope it doesn’t lead to two steps back.
ErikaFebruary 7, 2010 at 7:15 pm #57631Scott GParticipant
So for those of us that live close to a State line?? For example, my daughter just picked up a steer from Laramie last weekend and brought it home. We’ve always had brand inspectors out here but they’re usually “one of us” and easy and reasonable to deal with. This is definitely local, 40-60 miles, but there are State line issues for us.February 13, 2010 at 2:44 pm #57629Gabe AyersKeymaster
NAIS ~COMING SOON, MANDATORY INTERSTATE REQUIREMENTS
By Darol Dickinson & Russ McAfee
Dr. W. Ron DeHaven is CEO of the American Veterinary Medical Assn.USDA Sec. Vilsack announced during the morning of Feb. 5 that NAIS was over, ended, no more.
His customary emotionless announcement was fairly brief, but the detailed USDA Factsheet (Click here for factsheet) released simultaneously required seven pages of small print describing the animal ID “will do’s” and “won’t do’s”–all of which will be enforced at some future date in a to-be-determined manner.
The New York Times reported this based on information from an “unidentified USDA informant.”
At once thousands of emails flew from around the globe with nearly as much excitement outside the US as the home land.
Ranch and cattle producers smiled and nodded.
But it seems the victory may be short lived.
Now comes a lone government employee saying he cannot endorse Sec. Vilsack’s new announcement.
Dr. W. Ron DeHaven is CEO of the American Veterinary Medical Assn. The US veterinarian head count is 100,728 licensed practitioners; of which 930 are Federal Veterinarians, employed by APHIS, and 23 are Homeland Security staff veterinarians.
DeHaven has always been a verbal supporter of mandatory NAIS. He says Vilsack “. . .has been caving to this public resistance…”
DeHaven’s “public resistance” is the overwhelming majority of livestock producers who opposed the NAIS for a list of reasons that would choke a giraffe.
According to DeHaven, the mag-daddy of veterinarians, none of these “resistors” should have had any voice in the NAIS’s demise, and Secretary Vilsack should not have listened to them.
One gets the feeling he would like to see Vilsack go away, and himself take control.
Then again, DeHaven has shot his mouth off before, under oath. He showed his out-of-touch thinking March 11, 2009 when he testified to the House Committee on Agriculture as a hand picked presenter. He stated, “If the US is to remain competitive or grow export markets, an effective NAIS will be required.”
Evidently unknown to DeHaven, the US has been a net importer of beef for the last 21 years. Last year, the country exported $2,183,977,168 in beef and imported $4,857,454,008.
We haven’t produced enough beef to feed the nation in 21 years, yet DeHaven confidently testified that future exports are imperative.
USDA released their NAIS Fact Sheet February 5. It states:
“What is certain is that animal disease traceability will be required for animals moving in interstate commerce. . .To ensure interstate compatibility and connectivity, APHIS will work with States and Tribal Nations in establishing standards and guidelines where free or low-cost tags will be incorporated as options.”
DeHaven says the AVMA cannot endorse the Vilsack new approach:
“As I understand it, they will let each state and tribal nation more or less develop their own program? So, I’m concerned about interoperability between fifty or more different systems. Will one state be able to talk to another state as an animal moves through interstate commerce?”
DeHaven’s Audio: “Click Here”
From this statement, it would appear DeHaven has never processed an interstate veterinarian animal health certificate.
Here is how it works, and has for every veterinarian’s lifetime:
An animal is sold into another state.
The state receiving the animal has “states rights” and determines the rules of entry.
The owner of the sold animal contacts their local veterinarian.
The vet has an “Entry Permit Acquisition Book” with phone numbers of every US state and tribe, provided by the USDA.
They call the state vet office of destination, talk to an authorized person, receive the required protocol, do what ever health tests are required for entry, complete a standard animal health certificate, receive a permit number to enter the state, and the critter is ready to travel.
This health certificate has four copies of different colors.
One copy goes with the hauler,
One stays with the local vet,
Two go to the state vet of origin, and
They forward one copy on to the receiving state vet.
The receiving state has a staff of people who check these incoming certificates every day, and may actually go and inspect the animals after arrival if they have concern.
It has always been required that a permanent ID be on each departing critter. This can be a:
Fire brand number,
Cheap government metal ear clip,
OCV clip, or
Other approved ID.
This has been established and is already done.
No animals travel across state lines without ID and a health certificate, and nothing is new about that.
This is a system that has worked for a lifetime, and Vilsack understands the total cost to USDA is zero to continue this process.
This system has been used successfully during every major outbreak of livestock disease in our history.
Currently a huge weight of mistrust hangs over DeHaven, Vilsack, and the USDA. Vilsack says he is well aware of “. . .the downward confidence level NAIS has caused.”
The attempt to shove NAIS down the throat of every livestock producer in the U.S. will-not-be-forgotten, and the USDA may try to resurrect and rename it again–the Every Animal Traceability Tax, (EATT), or the No Cow Left Behind (NCLB)–but the results will be the same.
And another bureaucrat like DeHaven will stand up before some Congressional committee and pretend there is this huge, dangerous, animal disease mountain to climb and that without a NAIS, the food safety of the nation will be imperiled.
Hopefully, that bureaucrat will have enough sense to know we already have a successful interstate commerce system in place, and that all it takes for a producer to comply is to make a phone call to the destination state and do what the receiving state asks.
It’s that simple.
just a forward, nothing to do with HHFF, ignore signature….August 23, 2011 at 5:42 pm #57637
Similar intentions, new name! Animal Disease Traceability
A watered down more state involved version of NAIS, it does seem to be less one size fits all and does appear to exclude animals for personal use and custom slaughter, I don’t see it effecting me like the old NAIS proposed to.
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?navid=NEWSROOM&navtype=MA&edeployment_action=changenavAugust 24, 2011 at 5:30 am #57633near horseParticipant
I am getting so tired of this BS with NAIS, traceability or what have you. I just picked up 2 bull calves today and, as usual, have to go into Washington state to get them and thus require a brand inspection (on a calf not yet born or branded when the inspection is done). No papers – no resale. It’s a pain for everyone involved and requires me to contact the WA brand inspectors office to inform them of my intent to purchase calves so that they can schedule a trip to inspect …… for $8. Wow. This is going through the motions and I can’t see any benefit from their enhanced systems when you’re talking about operations with thousands and thousands of animals. Got to go bang my head on the wall for a minute!April 21, 2012 at 10:07 pm #57639wvhorsedocParticipant
Nice job Jason ! I retired from USDA on 1/1/2000 after 32 years service as a veterinarian in several USDA branches, as well as private practice. I retired because I felt USDA had forgotten their reason for being created in 1908 (just like the Dept of Energy). I openly opposed NAIS in 2000 and have not changed my opinion. I do not recall the specialty of Dr DeHaven, but would not be surprised if it was a dog and cat practice. How anyone with a brain could recomment such a crazy set of regulations is beyond me. Most federal agencies are now led by morans that have never tried to make a living by “working”. Our country has survived, not because of, but in spite of the so called permenant government employees. I’m amazed every day how our “leaders” are able to remain office. Where does it end?April 22, 2012 at 1:03 am #57632Jim OstergardParticipant
Well said doc. Way to many folks in DC just in the profession of being in the profession of being in DC. And thanks to all in this thread for the sane thoughts on this insane issue. Wasn’t about to think of compliance if NAIS had com about.
Jim OApril 22, 2012 at 1:43 pm #57634near horseParticipant
Jim – I’m not sure we’re out the woods yet on NAIS. As I understand it is being reworked.
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